EPISODE TWO  [11 September 2020]


Poets Alice Notley and Precious Okoyomon converse together for the first time to discuss how they tune into interconnectedness, how dreaming together might forge collective states of belonging, and ask each other how love moves them and the world. Sharing their poetry and its rootedness in their personal histories – as well as their hopes for the future – Notley and Okoyomon render visions of intergenerational lives in continuous acts of translation.

Alice Notley was born in Bisbee, Arizona in 1945 and grew up in Needles, California, in the Mojave Desert. She has lived most extensively in Needles, in New York and, since 1992, in Paris. She is the author of numerous books of poetry, and of essays and talks on poetry, and has edited and co-edited books by Ted Berrigan and Douglas Oliver. She edited the magazine CHICAGO in the 1970s, and co-edited with Oliver the magazines SCARLET and Gare du Nord in the 1990s. Notley is the recipient of many awards, mostly recently the Ruth Lilly Prize, a lifetime achievement award. She may be most widely known for her epic poem The Descent of Alette. Recent books include Eurynome’s SandalBenediction, and For the Ride.

Precious Okoyomon is a queer poet, artist, and performer living in New York. She is the author of Ajebota (Bottlecap Press, 2016) and But Did You Die (forthcoming from Birds LLC). She has read and performed at The Kitchen and Artists Space in New York, and Serpentine Galleries in London. Her work examines a history of the criminalisation and racialisation of light, darkness, and the sun (which Okoyomon believes to be indisputably black.)


What’s Love Got To Do With It? is programmed and curated by Beatrice Gibson, produced by Alannah Chance, and features unique compositions by Crystabel Riley and Seymour Wright. Graphic design by HIT Studio. What’s Love Got To Do With It? is a commission by Bergen Kunsthall; Camden Art Centre, London; KW Institute for Contemporary Art, Berlin; and Mercer Union, a centre for contemporary art, Toronto.




Graphic design by HIT Studio, 2020.